Doc, as usual, drones on and on and on about location, location, location. But it appears Solomon has applied yet another disciplinary smack, and a firm stomp on the brakes, to Doc's efforts.
Solomon: "Doc, Our argument on location is in particular reference to the arrest, claimed to be in international waters. We must not be tempted to go further...As Lubby has pointed out in a number of posts, much is uncertain. The version of España Maritima quoted by Lubby and requoted by you is a translation into English from the Spanish, by Tofiño de San Miguel. Do you know when the original was written, or how up-to-date was all the detail?...All we can say with any degree of certainty is that our calculations (not the archival records themselves, but based on the data therein) indicate strongly that the Odyssey claim to have found the Black Swan inside international waters in [sic] wrong. We have nothing to gain by trying to go further, most especially with a guess-estimate."
Why not go further? What is Solomon afraid of? Is Doc bungling interpretations so badly (Solomon characterizes them as "guest-estimates") that he must be muzzled? And what does Solomon mean that the archival records don't themselves prove anything about where the ship went down, but that the "data therein" indicates Odyssey is lying? Does that make sense? And, while we admire Sir Solomon the Angry Twit's efforts to bring Doc back to Earth regarding his reading of and extrapolation from the primary sources, he too can't help himself by once again calling Odyssey liars about where they found the Black Swan (BS).
For the record, here is what Odyssey officially said about where they recovered the BS (emphasis ours):
It is believed that this recovery constitutes the largest collection of coins ever excavated from a historical shipwreck site. They were recovered in conformity with Salvage Law and the Law of the Sea Convention, beyond the territorial waters or legal jurisdiction of any country. The Company does not believe that the recovery is subject to sovereign immunity by any nation pursuant to the Law of the Sea Convention. (Odyssey's May, 18, 2007, press release.)That's a clear, definitive statement. Odyssey's ocean movements, and the precise coordinates of where the BS was found and archaeologically excavated, are well-documented and part of the public record. Why anyone thinks the company would lie about something so basic, and so easy to disprove publicly, is beyond our comprehension.
So does constantly posting that the company is lying about this constitute libel? We think so.
Regardless of all the banter, it's always great fun watching Solomon lay the strap on our favorite whipping boy, Doc, and we think a marvelous way to kick off the weekend. So, have a fun and relaxing weekend everyone. We'll have some new material and posts for you next week.
UPDATE: Looks like Doc couldn't leave well enough alone and kept speculating about the BS and where it went down. This apparently did not sit well with Solomon -- again -- and he posted:
Solomon: "Doc, in the chart you provide, the soundings for the channel illustrated are marked as 3 and 4. Are those fathoms? The importance of Faro as a port has already been noted. She sent forth voyages of exploration across the world and was one the principal ports of Portugal for trade with the Americas. When was Espana Maritima written? Was it accurate?"
The "master" is once again chastising the pupil for his accuracy in research, his repetitiveness (that's a few times now), while also questioning his interpretation and use of primary sources for his speculations. This is turning out to be a most excellent Friday indeed.
Kick back and pop a cold one, kids!
UPDATE-2: This comment, from our friend Jeff K., is so good, we're pulling into the main body of this post:
Here's a quote from Doc: "The recovery of even a single inscribed bronze cannon would identify the Mercedes. The records kept in the Museo Naval and the Real Arsenal would specify the last ship to which the cannon was assigned. Now, where are the cannon?"
Not going to happen! The Spanish stopped using bronze cannons 100 years before the Mercedes sank. So much for Doc's knowledge about Spanish armament. ~ Jeff K.
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Here's a quote from Doc.
"The recovery of even a single inscribed bronze cannon would identify the Mercedes. The records kept in the Museo Naval and the Real Arsenal would specify the last ship to which the cannon was assigned. Now, where are the cannon?"
Not going to happen! The Spanish stopped using bronze cannons 100 years before the Mercedes sank. So much for Doc's knowledge about Spanish armament.
Why do you guys obsees over 1 person so much?
"Obsees"? Do you mean "obsess"?
If that "one person" means Doc (we like to think we give Solomon equal time), we would ask a question in return...which will in turn answer yours: Why does Doc and HH obsess about discrediting and trying to destroy Odyssey? To the point where Doc finds himself in a court of law being charged with libel.
Our purpose is simple: to question HH's most nefarious activities and to hed light on their many lies and distortions. If you don't like that approach, don't read the blog. Pretty simple, really.
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